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  1. A very mini-mini clinic for Rocket - Part 3

    Out of the traditional FB position, we use traditional Wing T belly steps. We call it lateral, crossover, lead.
  2. A very mini-mini clinic for Rocket - Part 3

    We run belly out of plus/minus as well. We have the FB take a lateral step to the inside and then take a gather step so that it times up well. I also found that we had to really stress that the ballcarrier read the block of the OT (even more than when running belly from behind the C) because the tendency of our FB was always to hit it up too far to the inside. Sometimes we ran it inside of a down block by our OT. But after really stressing it, the FB's were able to get it and it has been a good compliment/constraint when we offset our FB and run rocket motion behind it.
  3. A very mini-mini clinic for Rocket- Part 2

    I know you asked Coach E, but I just thought I'd add what we do. We will run No Mo Rocket (toss), Bucksweep, and Waggle all on "lightning". Down Blocks and Pulls are doable out of a two-point stance as well.
  4. Inside Zone?

    Thanks Coach.... I agree, that would be the main concern. I think that the flexbone teams (especially those that play against each other all the time and know the system so well) do it because the opponent is so dialed in to stop the option stuff, that the zone becomes difficult to defend. I would imagine the same would hold true for teams trying to defend Wing and Zone, but you are right, we must be concerned with ourselves and having the time to practice and get good at something. This offense is difficult enough to get our linemen doing it well.
  5. Inside Zone?

    I know when I coached in a "flexbone" system, we used Zone Dive as a compliment to teams that used a Squeeze and Scrape technique against our Veer. But it seems like the Military Academies are using it more now as a way to combat nose tackles that are reading the Center and overplaying to the playside. And today, they both used Zone as a way to have their QB's carry the ball.
  6. Inside Zone?

    Does anyone incorporate inside zone to their Hybrid Wing? I think it would be difficult for a defense to defend buck, trap, belly, etc. and a Zone play. Watching Army vs. Navy, both teams incorporate a lot of zone now (especially against each other). I don't think zone is good against every defense, but the teams that read blocking schemes and react laterally to our down blocks can give us trouble...Zone may be a better way to attack such defenses. We play a couple of very well-coached, old-school 5-2 teams and I think it is the toughest defense that we play against. I can see how inside zone to the FB could be a solid play against this defense. So far we have incorporated Bear/Bull stuff (trap influence, Belly, Belly Rocket) and regular rocket and jet, as well as end-over Bucksweep against this Defense. We have had some success with these, but typically when we play teams that have great players and are well-coached reading 5-2's it can be tough sledding (I know...it's shocking that talented players that are well coached give us trouble). I'm just thinking that perhaps Inside Zone could give us another answer to those odd front teams that read well. Is it too difficult to teach Inside Zone along with all of the stuff that we already do?
  7. Power (stanford)

    We have practiced a similar play. What we thought was that if the DE (#1) was going to widen with our motion, that it would be easy to kick him out. We found that timing up the motion so that it really looks like rocket was difficult. I certainly think it could be done, and maybe we gave up on it too soon. But we would just run our DOWN play (playside Guard pull kick - G Scheme) with the rocket motion behind it and it gave us the same thing. I think it would be worth the time to practice something if your HB's were clearly your better ballcarriers and the guys you wanted to be getting the ball in big situations. If that is the case, then it is important to have ways to get them the ball no matter the DE's reaction.
  8. The "Nasty" Clinic - Part 5

    Coach, This is a relevant question. The beauty of using Coach E's system of counting is that it can handle most situations. Also you need to give kids rules that will handle most alignments. For example, when you have a split end and a slot there are only so many places that they can align #2 and #3. The basic Rocket rules that Coach E has posted during this mini clinic can handle those alignments. We have calls where the WB and SE can switch assignments, the SE can crack a wide #5, and where the SE can crack the #4 (picture a safety cheating with Motion or an offset FB). These 3 variations can handle just about any way that the defense can align, IF the kids understand the counting method. That and you have to have some play-action passes to handle cheating DB's. If they consistently are putting more players outside than you can block, then you have them out-numbered somewhere else. Another good point that Coach Wright has made is to practice the most difficult situations. Don't spend time practicing the ideal situations, those will work out; spend your time practicing the difficult situations.
  9. The "Nasty" Clinic - Part 3

    Great Diagrams. We have the same coaching points. I love the idea about aligning the Rocket back a little wider. Sometimes if he gets tight, it screws up his angle and it is difficult for the rocket back to get really flat after he runs through the FB's heels. I think it is essential that the back get flat after he passes the FB, we spend a lot of time coaching this up and sometimes we can see on film where our back catches the rocket too deep. It throws off the whole play. We do the rocket drill as a mirrored drill, so two QB's are facing each other and the pitches go opposite each other (both are running "Rocket to the Right" at once). This allows us to get a lot of reps with it. The reps are important... Rocket is a great play once the QB and the RB have a feel for how it is done but it takes a lot of practice reps to iron it out. The kids hate doing all these reps in a row....It is tough if they are sprinting at full speed which they need to be, but it is worth it to get it right.
  10. The "Nasty" Clinic - Part 1

    I would say that if they are widening the ILB out so wide that he is becoming a problem, you could offset your FB and have him lead the play. I would agree with the sentiment that you should run the ball wherever they have cheated from, but if they put an extra guy out there and you still want to run the play, then you should get an extra blocker to it. We haven't seen any teams widen their ILB's out to us, but against 2 deep teams we have teams cheat the safety up and play him aggressively to the rocket, and in essence the safety becomes like an extra #2. Offsetting our FB has helped with that.
  11. The "Nasty" Clinic - Part 1

    I am considering the "Nasty End" a detached end. 3 1 2 E OT OG C OG OT E B Q B F Something like this.... If running rocket to the right. Do you ever consider the "Nasty E" the mole?
  12. The "Nasty" Clinic - Part 1

    We do things almost exactly the same as Coach E does. We count the same and have the same rules for our Rocket and Jet. When it comes to #1...we tell our guys that "#1 is the first defender on or outside our widest linemen" (either an OT or a TE) so that if we get a head up "4 Tech" to the SE surface that "4 Tech" is the #1. But if we get a "4 Tech" on our OT and a "9 Tech" on the outside of a TE to a TE surface, then the "9 Tech" is #1 because he is the first man on or outside our widest linemen. It ends up being the same as Coach Elrod's, we just do not use the term MOLE. Now when it comes to compressed formations, our problems have been when teams put #2 head up or outside shoulder of our detached End and a #3 outside of that. Would you have the End just block #2 and loop the Wingback out to the #3 Corner? Or some other variation?
  13. The "Nasty" Clinic

    I vote for a mini-clinic on both running the offense against an 8 man front and the Nasty formations. We did not use too many Nasty sets, but when we did teams would usually roll their secondary to it and give us a hard corner outside of our Nasty SE often times blitzing in what would be similar to a "Suicide" corner. We probably should have thrown more when teams did this, but like most that run this offense we were pretty efficient at running the ball and running away from the Nasty, or running the ball inside. I've already learned so much from this site, and I can't wait to hear some more. Thanks Coach E.
  14. The Bear & Bull - Part 4

    Coach, I appreciate the mini-clinics and I hope you do share the others that you had planned. I have learned a ton from this forum and I hope to continue to do so. I will share our experience with this play as we tried it about 2 years ago. We did not run belly well enough for the Belly Rocket to be effective. We were pretty weak upfront and we were facing some 50 teams that outmatched us up front. We thought Belly Rocket would be a good way trick the defense and get to the outside (we had some decent backs). However, whenever we ran the belly we were stuffed up front. So on the Belly Rocket, we never got the DE or the Corner to fall inside. I think it is a great play, but I think Belly needs to be established for it to work.
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