Difference Of Jet Vs Fly?

[coachteeter]

I am wondering what the difference is between the Jet sweep, and the Fly sweep. Is it the same thing, or is it a different blocking scheme??? Wing-T VS Zone???

 

 

[Coach Metz]

the way I understand it...

The FB dives opposite flow in the jet, & dives towards flow in the fly.

Metz

[coachperk]

As we call it, the Fly sweep starts from much wider split, not from a wing or slot.

We prefer it over jet because it requires only one key block. Everyone else is downfield blocking. We turn everyone loose inside a 5 tech. Usually run it out of a doubles set. PST simply springs and rolls at the the feet of the end. Much easier than trying to reach and hook. We teach "reach and roll." A playside end has never made the play on sweep.

 

You can have 5 weak lineman and still run it successfully, although 5 weak linemen is certainly not what we're shooting for. Reach and roll and everyone else get downfield and throw on someone.

 

We dive FB playside. If we give to FB we never block playside end. He is playing the fly. We double and combo DT to LB (who is usually flowing laterally and not downhill). Again, it's great for poor linemen.

[coach ralph jimenez]

Coachperk what is "reach and roll"?

[RickyH]

The way I understand things is that jet is blocked by pulling linemen leading the play, and in the fly the lead blocking is done by a back.

[coachperk]

Sorry for so long on the reply, we've been on Spring Break.

 

Reach and roll is this -- say we're in doubles and the playside tackle has a 5 tech. On the snap of the ball he will spring laterally to get his head past and in front of the outside leg of the DE. Then he log rolls. Sounds silly, but you can teach anybody to reach and roll. The DE either falls like a tree or he can play it perfectly -- benchpressing the tackle to the ground, keeping his feet and shuffling outside (all the while the jet guy has flown by him). There just isn't enough time to play off the block and make the play. The other linemen are all down field throwing on a Lb or secondary guy.

 

The key block has to be out of your slot (#2) receiver. His split has to be close enough that a force player can not fire into the backfield. Also, if the DE widens way out, then the tackle makes a "Soup" call (soup needs a cracker, silly I know). Then #2 cracks the DE.

[coach ralph jimenez]

thanks coachperk! I also teach that tech I just use differnt words hope u ha d a restful spring break!

[Coach SMS]

"Soup needs a cracker" Thats pretty good coach, hope you don't mind if I use that.

[BRAVES]

Coach,

 

This may be a stupid question, but is "log Blocking" the same as cut blocking?

 

If it is, how can you do this outside the tackle?

 

Thanks in advance!

[coach ralph jimenez]

BRAVES, Log blocking is making contact first then swing your tail to the outside.

 

Coach SMS I love the soup call! It makes perfect sense! Coach Wes Elrod has some REAL FUNNY ONES!! This helps kids remember their assignment

[BRAVES]

Read Coach Perk's response. If the OT reaches... then rolls once he gets outside of the end, wouldnt the officials call that a cut block outside the tackle?

 

Thanks for any input.

[coach ralph jimenez]

Coach I get it now. He is reaching far shoulder or hip and log rolling. This is a type of cut block. Our rules here is you can cut block if you are on the line in the box. A rb could not cut block. I personaly would not teach that, we seem to compete with kids that are extremely athletic 4.7 or better type speed on the EDGES on the LOS. Forgive me for missunderstanding what Coach perk was describing.

 

We teach maximum legal vertical allignment. We rep the on the line offensive players to attack the sideline just as if they were running a pro agilty test. If leverage is attained the inside arm of the blocker will punch lock and hook the D by swing their tail to the outside. If this fails run the D to the sideline and the G and Rb has to read and cut on a dime. Hope this helps!

[coachperk]

In Texas you can cut within the tackle box. No player who starts outside the end man on the line of scrimmage may come back toward the ball and cut. I guess the best way to describe what I'm calling "reach and roll" is essentially flopping in front of the end and rolling.

In my experience it doesn't matter what the DE runs, he can't play off a rolling defender to use that speed. Also, if they choose to use that speed to jump outside, then the dive off of it will gash them. In fact, the dive is hands down the most successful play of the series. We put our best back at fullback, not one of of the sweepers. The fullback (what he's called in our scheme anyway) has 7-8 opoportunities to get the ball, whereas the sweeper has only one.

I have a video playbook on DVD that shows our fly series (we call it "jet", but I've learned here that isn't the most accurate description), with slow motion to show the blocking. Free to anyone willing to trade good ideas back this way.

[BRAVES]

Thanks Coaches for the descriptions.

[Coach SMS]

Coach Perk,

 

Those are federation rules right. I believe most states play by the federation rules with the exception of Mass. and a few others that play NCAA. Coach I would be very interested in that playbook.

 

Coach SMS

[coachperk]

I wasn't sure what states allowed cut blocks and which didn't. Get me outside of Texas, and I'm lost. Because we usually have small, quick linemen a lot of what we do is cut in space.

 

If you'd like the DVD playbook, email me your mailing address to:

twperkins@aubreyisd.net

 

I hope it helps. If nothing else, it presents a different way of running it from traditional jet.

 

 

[Coach SMS]

CoachPerk,

I have sent my address to twperkins@aubreyisd.net, it keeps coming back. Could you email me at; falconfootball81@hotmail.com

 

 

Thanks CoachPerk

[coachperk]

I'm pretty sure that an email from the president himself would be rejected by our crazy filter.